tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post5468499301970544477..comments2024-03-10T12:04:17.661-07:00Comments on The Oracle at Delphi: Softening stance...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10119008505905401707noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-19782409034808134832007-09-11T05:23:20.000-07:002007-09-11T05:23:20.000-07:00Limit a single IP to 5 posts per day per group, th...Limit a single IP to 5 posts per day per group, then people will be much more careful what they post :-)PMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-44497624234292782952007-05-18T06:38:50.000-07:002007-05-18T06:38:50.000-07:00This is a tough questions. The non-tech newsgroup...This is a tough questions. The non-tech newsgroups I avoid simply because they seem to be more negative then anything else. I dont know what the answer is - maybe a way to hide users as a prior poster wrote?Scott Woodsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-60997395964716689182007-05-18T22:33:35.000-07:002007-05-18T22:33:35.000-07:00I think both Allen and Cory Doctorow miss a big pa...I think both Allen and Cory Doctorow miss a big part of the picture by ignoring aspects such as intellect and professionalism. The different <a title="" href="http://www.codegear.com" rel="nofollow">CodeGear</a> fora are not just communities; their primary purpose is to serve as place to exchange technical information. If you disregard that, I think you miss something important.<br><br><br>If you attribute the wrong motives to "trouble makers", a professional who knows he is right and desperately tries to get his views through to dim-wits who either appear miss the point or to listen to false authorities, is easily mistaken for an attention seeker who only tries to get his ego through.<br><br><br>An important difference is that you *can* reason with the professional, but not with the attention seeker or a troll. Another equally important difference is that reason might be the *only* way to address the professional and that any other approach (that might have worked if he or she was just an attention seeker) might only make him or her even more upset.Henrick Hellströmhttp://blogs.streamsec.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-30003807647889807622007-05-20T16:17:24.000-07:002007-05-20T16:17:24.000-07:00To me I like the idea of the ignore option. Howeve...To me I like the idea of the ignore option. However one big problem I have found in other forums and online communities is that some of the "Hostile Jerks" are in fact the moderators of that community. To me one major requirement to having a set of rules that members must follow or get banned etc, is that these same such rules must also apply to the moderators. If not then it can never work. As it is always very easy for the moderators to yell the rules, and then in later posts/messages break those same rules, knowing full well that nothing will happen to them.<br><br><br>As to the rest, there is no perfect system for this, and unfortunately never will be as we are all too different. What to one person may just be an innocent comment, to another is a slap in the face. The best that you can hope for is to try and balance the rules to the majority of people, and make sure that those members that enforce the rules also live by those same rules.Vaughannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-86919495039306881302007-09-11T10:15:13.000-07:002007-09-11T10:15:13.000-07:00Seriously Allen, GROW A THICKER SKIN. In the abse...Seriously Allen, GROW A THICKER SKIN. In the absence of you citing any examples so that we can see exactly what the context of your complaints actually mean, this is the best advice. It can also be translated as "Do nothing, except listen better in the unlikely event that you are being told something unpleasant, yet useful nonetheless".Dennis Landihttp://pluginmgr.dennislandi.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-61424822769355171202007-05-18T04:22:29.000-07:002007-05-18T04:22:29.000-07:00Make it very moderated unless you want those '...Make it very moderated unless you want those 'hostile jerks' posting hundreds of flames.DANILO ZANAGAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-23781868919382265612007-05-18T05:36:57.000-07:002007-05-18T05:36:57.000-07:00"...but ignoring those hostile jerks and al..."...but ignoring those hostile jerks and allowing them to run amok isn't the answer either."<br><br><br>Problem is, why should you or someone else be the one to determine who "I" see as a "hostile jerk"?<br><br><br>Just give me the etools I need to "ignore" the ones I conclude are "hostile jerks". Eg. NGs sometimes have a why to hide messages posted by certain people.Richnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-91938749198625560702007-05-18T08:15:29.000-07:002007-05-18T08:15:29.000-07:00Borland attracted a lot of criticism because there...Borland attracted a lot of criticism because there was an official version about what was happening that didn't match with the reality, much less with customers' desires. That created frustration and lot of angry customers that, by the way, would be a little unfair to call "hostile jerks".<br><br><br>Companies can't always content everyone, but they can always say the truth. Being honest with their customers, <a title="" href="http://www.codegear.com" rel="nofollow">CodeGear</a> will gain the loyalty of its community enough to keep a good tone in the discusions.<br><br><br>Anon y mousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-51128935663039876312007-05-18T09:15:33.000-07:002007-05-18T09:15:33.000-07:00I've noticed that even the most private forums...I've noticed that even the most private forums can be fairly rowdy, even when people know each other. I'm reminded of the Dilbert strip exchange between Wally and Dilbert that goes "You're mighty brave in cyberspace, flameboy".<br><br><br>Is there a solution? Today's malcontent is tommorow's warning cry.<br><br><br>The problem is that people can't seem to ignore what they consider flamebait, and can't seem to resist flaming in response - regardless of any original intent.<br><br><br>Face it, people communicate badly at the best of times. After all, more wars have been started with talking than have been ended with it.C Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-14511758531035272052007-06-05T06:31:09.000-07:002007-06-05T06:31:09.000-07:00Sometimes the Team B moderators don't take a i...Sometimes the Team B moderators don't take a impartial view of things and fan the flames.<br><br>A big violator of this is Craig Stuntz, he is the biggest hypocrite around and many times makes stupid and snide comments or sticks his nose in business that does not concern him. <br><br>Bobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2428374771421713311.post-86930124297226778292007-06-05T06:37:27.000-07:002007-06-05T06:37:27.000-07:00Here is a great suggestion, don't allow TEAM B...Here is a great suggestion, don't allow TEAM B to be the moderators of the newsgroups they, as stated before are not impartial to certain products etc and many many times fan the flames themselves.<br><br>A better solution would be to have a separate group of people as strictly modorators. it might even be a good idea to pay them a small amount for their time. That way TEAM B can do the technical questions and leave the moderating to someone more impartial.Dr Smithnoreply@blogger.com